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	<title>Comments on: Abortion fiction: Neal Shusterman&#8217;s &#8220;Unwind&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Amanda Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Your conclusion left me in a grimace. The horrors of post-birth abortion and the heroes of the story literally declaring in the end, “We have the right to life” ACTUALLY makes you favor abortion?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, since neither of those things (post-birth abortion, people having a right to life) conflict with pro-choice principles, I don&#039;t see your point. &quot;Post-birth abortion&quot; is not abortion. Anyone born has the right to life. Neither of those things is antithetical to advocating a woman&#039;s right to choose what happens to her internal organs. On a side note, why is it that pro-lifers think pro-choice people are against all life, born and unborn? We&#039;re the ones who take care of people AFTER they&#039;re born, whereas pro-lifers&#039; interest stops at birth.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Everyone has incredible potential starting from the moment of conception, but it seems as though it’s hard for people to come to terms with this, going so far as to judge one’s age, not by the years they’ve existed, but the years they’ve existed within a certain parameter (being birth).&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So you&#039;re saying we should all celebrate &quot;conception days&quot; rather than birthdays? As for potential, of course an embryo has potential. So does an egg. So did each individual sperm that didn&#039;t manage to get to the egg first. &quot;Potential&quot; is not enough cause to outlaw choice.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;I don’t think I even need to bothering wondering what our ancestors would have thought of the idea of abortion, not matter how more or less civilized they were then than we are now, I’m sure the idea of abortion would dance the line of insanity.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wrong again. Abortion was legal in the U.S. until the mid 1800&#039;s, at least prior to quickening (discernible fetal movement), and it&#039;s been practiced throughout history by various societies. Sounds like you do &quot;need to bothering&quot; doing a little research before coming to inaccurate, self-serving conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>Your conclusion left me in a grimace. The horrors of post-birth abortion and the heroes of the story literally declaring in the end, “We have the right to life” ACTUALLY makes you favor abortion?</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Well, since neither of those things (post-birth abortion, people having a right to life) conflict with pro-choice principles, I don&#8217;t see your point. &#8220;Post-birth abortion&#8221; is not abortion. Anyone born has the right to life. Neither of those things is antithetical to advocating a woman&#8217;s right to choose what happens to her internal organs. On a side note, why is it that pro-lifers think pro-choice people are against all life, born and unborn? We&#8217;re the ones who take care of people AFTER they&#8217;re born, whereas pro-lifers&#8217; interest stops at birth.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Everyone has incredible potential starting from the moment of conception, but it seems as though it’s hard for people to come to terms with this, going so far as to judge one’s age, not by the years they’ve existed, but the years they’ve existed within a certain parameter (being birth).</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So you&#8217;re saying we should all celebrate &#8220;conception days&#8221; rather than birthdays? As for potential, of course an embryo has potential. So does an egg. So did each individual sperm that didn&#8217;t manage to get to the egg first. &#8220;Potential&#8221; is not enough cause to outlaw choice.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I don’t think I even need to bothering wondering what our ancestors would have thought of the idea of abortion, not matter how more or less civilized they were then than we are now, I’m sure the idea of abortion would dance the line of insanity.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Wrong again. Abortion was legal in the U.S. until the mid 1800&#8217;s, at least prior to quickening (discernible fetal movement), and it&#8217;s been practiced throughout history by various societies. Sounds like you do &#8220;need to bothering&#8221; doing a little research before coming to inaccurate, self-serving conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: Passerby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Passerby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your conclusion left me in a grimace.  The horrors of post-birth abortion and the heroes of the story literally declaring in the end, &quot;We have the right to life&quot; ACTUALLY makes you favor abortion?

For sake of playing Devil&#039;s Advocate, who&#039;s not to say that the book wasn&#039;t a &quot;genius&quot; insight into a hypothetical scenario from which &quot;you&quot; were being aborted, thus invoking pity or compassion for the lives squelched not long before they&#039;re capable to experience it the same way as the characters?

Having read the whole book just today, it would have been harder to make me loathe our government and the practice of abortion even more.

I think everyone should put a bit more stock in those yet unborn.  Everyone has incredible potential starting from the moment of conception, but it seems as though it&#039;s hard for people to come to terms with this, going so far as to judge one&#039;s age, not by the years they&#039;ve existed, but the years they&#039;ve existed within a certain parameter (being birth).

Everyday life is much simpler than most people make it out to be, but when we engross ourselves in unnecessarily complex societies, it&#039;s no wonder why we derive joy from reading novels that take that complexity and changes something to add a spin to it.

However, that said, I don&#039;t think I even need to bothering wondering what our ancestors would have thought of the idea of abortion, not matter how more or less civilized they were then than we are now, I&#039;m sure the idea of abortion would dance the line of insanity.  And I&#039;m with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your conclusion left me in a grimace.  The horrors of post-birth abortion and the heroes of the story literally declaring in the end, &#8220;We have the right to life&#8221; ACTUALLY makes you favor abortion?</p>
<p>For sake of playing Devil&#8217;s Advocate, who&#8217;s not to say that the book wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;genius&#8221; insight into a hypothetical scenario from which &#8220;you&#8221; were being aborted, thus invoking pity or compassion for the lives squelched not long before they&#8217;re capable to experience it the same way as the characters?</p>
<p>Having read the whole book just today, it would have been harder to make me loathe our government and the practice of abortion even more.</p>
<p>I think everyone should put a bit more stock in those yet unborn.  Everyone has incredible potential starting from the moment of conception, but it seems as though it&#8217;s hard for people to come to terms with this, going so far as to judge one&#8217;s age, not by the years they&#8217;ve existed, but the years they&#8217;ve existed within a certain parameter (being birth).</p>
<p>Everyday life is much simpler than most people make it out to be, but when we engross ourselves in unnecessarily complex societies, it&#8217;s no wonder why we derive joy from reading novels that take that complexity and changes something to add a spin to it.</p>
<p>However, that said, I don&#8217;t think I even need to bothering wondering what our ancestors would have thought of the idea of abortion, not matter how more or less civilized they were then than we are now, I&#8217;m sure the idea of abortion would dance the line of insanity.  And I&#8217;m with them.</p>
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